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Comments (146)
Very nice, even if i think you should have stop in 2005 ;-)
Maybe if you have time you could tell what you did, what kind of trainning.
See you.
Posted by Pikouri | March 29, 2007 7:26 PM
Posted on March 29, 2007 19:26
he should have stopped at the end of 2003, imho :)
Posted by Massimo | April 1, 2007 9:12 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 21:12
Quite impressive. You should post your training regiment. The first four months were especially impressive.
Posted by Bob | April 1, 2007 9:44 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 21:44
Its fake. photoshopped. look at all the heads in 2004, the're all the same with slight variation. doable in photoshop...
Posted by D | April 1, 2007 10:20 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 22:20
wow, this is very inspirational. thanks!
Posted by jimbo jones | April 1, 2007 10:51 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 22:51
Man, stop taking shit! Looks like someone's filled you with compressed air, doh!!
Posted by Facao | April 1, 2007 11:07 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 23:07
what happened after 4/6/04? after that month, you started to lose the muscle definition.
Posted by Ron | April 1, 2007 11:22 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 23:22
Very impressive, I have a similar set of photos. I do have one question though, where did the hair come from?
Posted by JoeWoah | April 1, 2007 11:46 PM
Posted on April 1, 2007 23:46
He looked best in the 4th pic, lost the gut, that's all he needed to do really
Posted by Alan | April 2, 2007 12:03 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 00:03
This is from http://www.johnstonefitness.com/
Posted by JGiles | April 2, 2007 12:40 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 00:40
can anyone say "barry bonds"? hahaha
Posted by joe | April 2, 2007 2:07 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 02:07
Yea definitely. This is a 'proof' to the concept of working out - and some techniques and methods used would be of value.
Posted by Nevil | April 2, 2007 2:22 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 02:22
At which poin did you get on the roids ?
Posted by jonnie jabloski | April 2, 2007 3:45 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 03:45
credit for the hard work man, but likewise i'd love to know what kind of workout you started on and the differences between that and what you were doing at the end
Posted by Glenn | April 2, 2007 3:57 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 03:57
Wow - that's a lot of different underwear.
Posted by Fredster | April 2, 2007 4:52 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 04:52
Wow, a lot of people are falling for some really cheesy photoshop. That's kind of sad, since it's obviously this one guy's face pasted on 40 some different bodies. The colors aren't even the same!
Pretty funny gag, i guess, since people totally fell for it.
Later___
Electric Monkey Pants
Posted by vemrion | April 2, 2007 5:23 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 05:23
Something's fishy. Either this guy has an almost superhuman ability to take the exact same photo every time or there's some photoshopping going on. (3/04 and 4/04 are good examples. Laid out in Photoshop, his face is in the exact same position.)
Also, if this is real, he's clearly juicing. 6/03 or so shows a probable maximum natural fitness on his frame. Around 2005, he starts gaining mass at an incredible rate. Plus, as happened with Barry Bonds, his head grows inexplicably.
Posted by a/c | April 2, 2007 6:19 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 06:19
Bro - if this is legit It looks like your training regime inclues getting on the gear towards the end of every year then cutting down as you get closer to summer.
Look at your bloat and the gains you make in only a couple of months at the end of 04,05 and 06 (in contrast to the gains you make at any other time during the year)
So, if these pics are fake, you need to get better at photoshop and if its legit I hope you have read about the effects of long-term steroid use.
Posted by Massimo | April 2, 2007 6:39 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 06:39
I'd highly recommend checking out the JSF website for all the training info you could ever need. No smoke and mirrors, just hard work and dedication to better health and fitness.
Posted by Dev | April 2, 2007 6:42 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 06:42
Fourth month in first year looks the best. After that, it gets ugly, then stays ugly, then suddenly gets worse to uber patheticly ugly.
Posted by Ozh | April 2, 2007 7:55 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 07:55
Yeah, he certainly should've stopped it, when he looked fit'n lean - not some steroid-pumped gorilla
Posted by Anonymous | April 2, 2007 9:17 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 09:17
You looked best on 6/8/2004
After that you got to big, it doesn't suit you. All definition is now gone.
Posted by Syllogism | April 2, 2007 10:16 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 10:16
Would you describe your diet for the first half a year?
Posted by Rocko | April 2, 2007 10:42 AM
Posted on April 2, 2007 10:42
For all the haters (aka as jealous fools), I direct you to this thread that will dispel your cheesy criticisms.
The guy is legit... now get over it.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1268241
Posted by J | April 2, 2007 1:15 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 13:15
Hey! I have been a member of JohnStoneFitness.com for almost 3 years. This is a non-commercial health & fitness community; many of us long-timers have become personal friends. We meet annually for a "cheat" meal down in John's home town. I assure you: no roids or anything else in his regimen. He posts daily his food and his workout. His poses are to show how his muscles have developed. There are a number of well-known body-builders too, contest winners who are completley "natural" demonstrated regularly by tests. Different ones advise John at different points. I am a 59 yo female. I too made a transformation though not as dramatically and as successfully as John (lack the discipline :-) ). There are many women there who have too. See this thread: http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=10747 (Fit Women over 42...) and many other threads there showing members of the community making fitness part of their daily life. Men who weighed 350 lbs and now could be in a rock band. Women with bodies distorted by pregnancy who now have some of the sexiest abs and butts. We all use training methods based on the same principles that Jessica Simpson used to get her bod hot for "Dukes of Hazzard." Come on by, not commercial, great people, no flaming allowed, just regular decent folks spanning 16 yo to 64 yo, all educational, career and professional levels. We support each other in our fitness goals and we help out each other with advice in every other aspect of our lives when anyone needs it. You can get hold of your health and your life too.
Posted by Justitia | April 2, 2007 2:24 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 14:24
Wow, I'm impressed. You have a great body. You must be glad as well, because you start smiling from 8-6-2004.
Well done.
Posted by Bastiaan | April 2, 2007 2:26 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 14:26
check out his site before making assumptions. He's cutting (leaning out) after doing a winter bulk. His diet and training regiment is fully described on his website
Posted by Hobbes | April 2, 2007 2:40 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 14:40
i think you were most attractive in the middle and i don't like shaved torsos, they aren't fun to touch.
Posted by gordon | April 2, 2007 3:43 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 15:43
The funny thing is he had boobs 1/6/03 and 4 years latter he still has them (but they are a little firmer).
Posted by rick | April 2, 2007 4:01 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:01
he had to have taken all sorts of supplements and pills. you can get that kind of muscle definition without it.
Posted by dtox | April 2, 2007 4:02 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:02
impressive at first... but then you started looking bloated and lost the six pack.
Posted by Anonymous | April 2, 2007 4:03 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:03
ummm he should have stopped a long time ago! lol
is it me or does he get a really stupid look on his face by the end of it??
Posted by dajebus | April 2, 2007 4:03 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:03
WOW, Amazing
Posted by car | April 2, 2007 4:13 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:13
You can see at 11/6/04 he starts hitting the juice and magically he fills out. Thats why its an attractive option for a lot of people, you really can't blast past your body type until you juice it.
Posted by juicer | April 2, 2007 4:20 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:20
Nice job but it looks like you really need to start doing some heavy shrugs to do your traps.
Posted by blee | April 2, 2007 4:21 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:21
Wut kind of steriods u been using buddy?
Posted by Akshay | April 2, 2007 4:27 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:27
Hahaha, recovering from a hernia operation. Should have stopped after 5 months. Fuck it, chicks dig man boobs.
Posted by Jared | April 2, 2007 4:43 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:43
YESTO BULGARIA HAAAAA :)
Posted by ILIAS HUBAVECAA | April 2, 2007 4:53 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 16:53
He probably went bald between 4/6/2003 and 5/6/2003 from the sudden steroids intake.
Posted by Francois | April 2, 2007 5:14 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:14
I really don't think this is photoshopped. I looked at the ones in question, and the faces are very alike, but the hair is different. Plus, its the same guy! so his face will be very much the same in some of the photos, in each he gives the same trying to take a shit face.
the question is, when did he start juicing? Id say just before new years, 2005.
Posted by JO | April 2, 2007 5:24 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:24
I just have to laugh when I see some of the comments on here. It's hard to take--or let me rephrase that--I can't take some of these comments seriously at all.
A lot of ignorant people assume that if you eat healthy ,train your rear-end off in the gym, and gain mass that you are taking steroids. I bet some of you who are making those comments are jealous of the gains and progress he's made. I bet some of you haven't been in a gym for more than a week. I know some of you don't understand bodybuilding or the science of it at all. You do not know what it likes to train heavy for months on end. People say that he loses definition after a certain amount of time. Well, that tends to happen when you are BULKING...duh!
Vemrion, what you say about 40 different bodies is interesting...one day maybe you can find me 40 different people who are willing to stand in almost the same position in just their boxers and have it posted for the public to see, oh what a great gag! (sarcasm)
D, just because you CANNOT see the differences does not mean that others can't.
a/c, there's noting superhuman about it. It is something called CONSISTENCY.
Juicer, maybe the reason he's looking fuller is because he is on a particular phase...it's something called a bulking phase.
Some people like to have mass and muscles on them rather than be skinny punks who presuppose the use of steroids for every muscular Joe they come across.
Posted by new_personality_05 | April 2, 2007 5:35 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:35
His hair is changing and his smile is changing over the pictures so its not realy fake :)
Posted by troni | April 2, 2007 5:50 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:50
Those of you accusing this guy of juicing are horribly incorrect. The type of change he is seeing over 4 years is not uncommon. The guy is simply eating like a horse.
I personally started weight training in January and have personally gained 22 pounds in that time without juicing. Stick to proper nutrition, and getting enough calories while training well, and you will see results like this.
Good job to the owner of this blog!
Posted by Joe | April 2, 2007 5:51 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:51
too bloated in the end or its just the cycle?
Posted by G | April 2, 2007 5:58 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:58
Trust me, as an amateur bodybuilder, growth like that wouldn't come from steroids. Steroid users are much bigger after 4 years. When I began body building I went from an athletic 170 to nearly 190 in little more than 3 months. People who don't lift much will see large gains fairly quickly. Congrats to John on turning his physical appearance around. I'm sure he is enjoying the many benefits of bodybuilding.
Posted by Brad | April 2, 2007 5:58 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 17:58
So in 5/2003 he goes to tanning booth and starts rubbing oil on himself.
Posted by scandium | April 2, 2007 6:02 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:02
Just checking to see how you are handling the delts and traps. Unfortunately, I too am a former "normy" and I spent the last 4 years completely transforming my body and making HUGE gains.
One thing that always helped me was Shark Cartilage...you might not be familiar with it.
One thing I've always had trouble with is repping through the burn. I've tried pretty much everything from creatine to thinking about my friend's wife, but nothing has given me that ability to rip through the burn.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
John Von Auerbach
Posted by John Von Auerbach | April 2, 2007 6:05 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:05
I like Nov 04 the best
Posted by stephanie | April 2, 2007 6:13 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:13
Francois:
Rapid dieting can cause pretty noticeable hair loss too. Androgens can cause it but as you see, it bounces back once he starts bulking again.
I do suspect some possible androgen use though. His jaw line is much more pronounced after the period. At times, he also makes some pretty drastic lean muscles increases in short periods.
Finasteride/Minox can be quite effective for hair if you're only using Testosterone.
Posted by Alpine | April 2, 2007 6:17 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:17
wow. just found this page as a link off of OFFTOPIC.
great work ! keep it up !
amazing improvement.
Posted by Anonymous | April 2, 2007 6:27 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:27
It's a pitty... you should have stopped at 11/6/2004...
Posted by Dine | April 2, 2007 6:28 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:28
Gee... I guess working out also makes you tan :)
Posted by Kevin | April 2, 2007 6:31 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:31
How does this guy manage to turn into such a porker every winter?
Posted by singer | April 2, 2007 6:35 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 18:35
He is legit, and thats natural. He gets fatter during the winter, cause thats when you put on the most mass "bulking" ...then cut down for months when people see you without clothes...It breaks the monotony of bodybuilding.
He did and is doing a great job.
Posted by Joe | April 2, 2007 7:35 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 19:35
Нинада на стироиды налигатъ.
Posted by Anonymous | April 2, 2007 7:36 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 19:36
looked best on 3/6/2003
Posted by Anonymous | April 2, 2007 7:38 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 19:38
"How does this guy manage to turn into such a porker every winter?"
He does a bulk every winter then cuts for summer.
Posted by Boo | April 2, 2007 7:52 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 19:52
I have to say, I find this post extremely interesting and encouraging. I have always wanted to do something similar to this, except that I typically go hard for about 4-5 months and then stop training for 4.. and that pattern has kind of stuck.
I think it's fantastic he was able to get these kinds of results, and I really do believe it was just the result of hard work. I have quite a few friends who have had similar gains themselves and I know for a fact they don't use steroids or supplements outside whey protein.
That being said, I would actually like to see a similar photoset of what is known as a "hard-gainer", or somebody who is skinny but has a hard time putting on bulk. I have to say I think us hard-gainers have a harder time getting results than those who have a hard time keeping their weight down as this guy did in the beginning.
Posted by Mark Nutter | April 2, 2007 8:29 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 20:29
I think the real impressive stuff is what he managed to accomplish in the first 8 months.
Going from a regular flabby guy to super-cut and muscular in such a short time is a much more inspiring accomplishment than 4 years to a bulked-up, bodybuilder type in 4 years. (For most people at least)
Posted by Interesting | April 2, 2007 8:31 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 20:31
Wish I had the discipline that guy does. Would definately be content with the late 2004 body. The 2006 and 2007 photos, he is just too bulky.
Posted by Chad | April 2, 2007 8:39 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 20:39
sterydy.
Posted by lcs | April 2, 2007 9:04 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 21:04
ya mate love the pic's well done.keep up the hard work.
Posted by jono | April 2, 2007 9:34 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 21:34
Awesome, you've got good will mate!
Posted by Alex | April 2, 2007 9:36 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 21:36
after the 07/04 picture:
"hey, jim, you should smile more... just a thought."
Posted by krinkle | April 2, 2007 9:45 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 21:45
These are completely fake. I'm sure a guy could transform himself but why the need to use the same head on a different body? If you are disciplined enough to work out and eat right for 4 years, why can't you just take real pics?
Posted by Fake faker | April 2, 2007 10:07 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 22:07
Dude...well done ! :)
Posted by Kraay | April 2, 2007 10:28 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 22:28
This guy is being photoshopped
period. Its so obvious! look at the pictures closely, you can see little edges in a straight line. Let me ask, how is it possible to have a perfectly straight chin???
It looks like this! __
If you don't believe me, fine then.
Posted by Big boy blue | April 2, 2007 10:29 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 22:29
fukin sick at the end
Posted by werwer | April 2, 2007 10:35 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 22:35
Mhm,
let me add my two cents from a female perspective...
the transition from the beginning to 5/6/2003 is very impressive, and 5/6/2003 is no doubt a hot male physique. Not sure the extreme tan in that second row of pictures is necessary, but eh whatever.
Anything that comes after that is pretty sick. 7/6/2003 looks like he hasn't eaten in a week, or (more likely as I know bodybuilders do this) not drank any water for days before taking that picture.
Hint: the transparent-skin-pulled-taut-over-bulging-muscle look looks like ass.
The pictures after that are okay (though the nice sixpack does fade, although I won't complain since I don't like men fixating on my tits either), until about 03/04 when the athletic look changes into the steroid look.
Yes, he might not actually have been taking steroids, guess what? It doesn't matter. The idea is to look fit and toned, not like you spend hours every day in a neon lit room uselessly defying gravity.
Plus, the bulky look looks like ass. Especially in the bottom two rows where it looks like he gained all his fat back, just spread out over bulky muscles underneath.
Conclusio: I'll take a runner over a bodybuilder any day.
Posted by Chris | April 2, 2007 10:40 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 22:40
excellent job. now tell us the workouts used starting from the beginning, please.
Posted by james | April 2, 2007 11:24 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 23:24
Obviously I can tell none of you workout nor looked at his amazing site (I've gone there on and off since he started).
He looks fuller because its called 'bulking' and looks more cut because of 'cutting'. Notice every few months he gets bigger and bigger then for a few months gets more and more toned.
He hasn't changed in 3 years really except for putting a lot of bulk behind the muscle. But... you HAVE to workout to maintain. Its impossible otherwise. That's basically what's happened.
Posted by jake3988 | April 2, 2007 11:35 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 23:35
Just proves to me that no matter what you do, chicken calves stay with you.
Posted by Rhea | April 2, 2007 11:45 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 23:45
He had a hernia and started shaving his legs!
Posted by Coocoo | April 2, 2007 11:46 PM
Posted on April 2, 2007 23:46
Huh? Why does the header say "13 pics"? There are 48 photos here.
Posted by AsdfQwerty | April 3, 2007 12:50 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 00:50
Wow, lay off the juice!
Posted by Luke | April 3, 2007 12:58 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 00:58
D said "Its fake. photoshopped. look at all the heads in 2004, the're all the same with slight variation. doable in photoshop..."
Do you realize how retarded this is? This would require having a series of training pictures with the body improving regardless of whos head is put on there.
Posted by Anonymous | April 3, 2007 2:19 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 02:19
I hate to brake the news to all of you...
This is one of the best Aprils fools jokes I have seen this year.
(NOT "Photoshoped" but "PhotoImpacted" :)
Good job. Roids Rule.
Posted by The Seeer | April 3, 2007 4:16 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 04:16
His transformation was impressive, but as you can tell, he was aiming for more mass than just looking "slim." He will probably end up toning down the mass now that he's gained it, for a slimmer, fuller look like that seen in 300.
Yes, you can get a tan that quickly. You can also lose and gain little bits of weight that quickly as well. The pictures are different, even if only slightly. It's real, it's realistic (nobody said it's perfect), and it's lots of hours pumping weights.
Posted by TheRLG | April 3, 2007 4:18 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 04:18
Hey man, Good job, where did all you leg hair go?
If these are photoshopped there how did he find 40 bodies all with such weird knees (no offence to the poster)
Posted by Pete Madison | April 3, 2007 4:31 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 04:31
OBVIOUS PHOTOSHOP!!!!
Posted by jimbo | April 3, 2007 5:07 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 05:07
Nearly everyone who has commented on steriods and supplements in this thread is an idiot. You shouldn't speak about things you know nothing about. What are all your assumptions based on? What you see in the news about barry bonds? He looks like he gained about 25 lean pounds in 4 years. just over 6lbs a year by my guess, not impossible at all. Unnatural? There is no way to tell for sure but it is certainly attainable naturally.
Posted by Dave | April 3, 2007 5:12 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 05:12
Not everything on the internet is fake morons!
Look at his belly button! It's got the same shape in each picture!
Posted by Chris | April 3, 2007 6:17 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 06:17
Yes, it's fake.
Posted by jim | April 3, 2007 9:37 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 09:37
looks like someones photoshoppin or your a roid freek looks like you lost ur muscle definition if its real IMO
Posted by annoymous | April 3, 2007 9:45 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 09:45
work the traps. please. would look a lot better with traps. anyway thats my 0.02.
Posted by hmmm | April 3, 2007 10:40 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 10:40
It looks like you suffered liver failure after month four and became jaundice as well has losing hair.
Were there diet pills involved?
Posted by Anonymous | April 3, 2007 10:46 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 10:46
He should have slowed down August 2003 and continue with just maintenance of his body. This would allow for other tissue to heal because that gets damages badly with such training.
Posted by bastos | April 3, 2007 10:54 AM
Posted on April 3, 2007 10:54
what the fuck was that!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Tucker Holmes | April 3, 2007 12:48 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 12:48
There is nothing more unattractive than a manufactured body. Being fit and happy is attractive. Being obsessed is not. Should have stopped at pic3
Posted by tanya | April 3, 2007 1:02 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 13:02
I've only got one thing to say to this; ANABOLA!
Posted by Alexus Corner | April 3, 2007 1:25 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 13:25
Hi,
Those are my photos, and I'd like to thank everyone for their comments and clear up a few things.
First, I've never used steroids, growth hormones or any other kind of "bodybuilding drug". I'm totally opposed to steroids, and I believe in the benefits of healthy, natural bodybuilding.
I'd also like to assure everyone that none of the photos are fake or altered in any way. My number one goal has always been to accurately track my progress as openly an honestly as possible.
I have all my training information, diets, photos, videos and tons of other information about my transformation posted on my site. I invite anyone who's interested to check that stuff out.
You'll see on my forums that my transformation is far from unique. Anyone can transform their body and health. All I did that was maybe a little different from most was document my transformation in great detail.
Thanks again for the comments. :)
Posted by John Stone | April 3, 2007 1:52 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 13:52
to clarify again...
I've grasped the concept of "bulking", I'm not an idiot. I'm saying it's a stupid thing to do.
Also, agreed with tanya on manufactured bodies.
Posted by Chris | April 3, 2007 3:37 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 15:37
Look, He's in his bulking on phase again and when you on're bulking up, you gain both muscle and fat and with fat you lose your abs.
Low Body fat = ABS.
Posted by Burger | April 3, 2007 3:56 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 15:56
Nice work, man. I'm going to start a blog right now documenting my progress.
Posted by The Das | April 3, 2007 5:32 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 17:32
To all those doubters, and people who call photoshop, heres an idea, why not try actually having a look through his site. www.johnstonefitness.com. That details his food logs, workouts and even a personal news post every day since the start. Thats a lot of effort to go to just to produce a fake set of pictures so all you out of shape morons can sit on your fat asses infront of your PC and discuss what type of body you wish you had and make yourself feel better by believeing that change is not possible without trickery or magic pills. Guess what, it is.
Anyone who thinks he is on roids clearly knows nothing about steriods or body building. It is so obvious from his pics that he is natural.
And his six pack faded because he has been bulking, which because there are no roids involved, means you eat like a horse to gain muscle. The past few years, he has not lost as much fat as he did in the first phase. His new goal is to get back down to that low body fat level, which he should hit in a few months. The six pack will then have returned. But hey, you all know this right, coz you all know so much about him??
Read the site and forums in detail before posting your pointless and illeducated comments.
Posted by Reno_1ted | April 3, 2007 6:33 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 18:33
Wow. Half of these fat and ugly newbs think you're using steroids.
Then that fat cow is jealous because you're probably better looking than her and her boyfriend(if she has one) put together. These people obviously know NOTHING about natural bodybuilding. I am glad you never stopped after ANY picture. You actually look like a MAN now. People think that just because you workout and eat right you're in love with yourself. I'm a natural bodybuilder, and guess what? I only spend 4-5 hours a week in the gym! Thats only 4, sometimes 5, days one hour at a time, Ihave a great life, a great g/f, I'm not in love with myself, and I don't look like a little girl!
keep up the good work bro'. Half of these skinny fat news could learn a thing or two from you.
Posted by stephen | April 3, 2007 7:54 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 19:54
Addressing some of the comments:
- this is standard physique improvement with slow and steady CONSISTENT gains, I see no reason at all to claim steroids were used.
- you don't have to spend hours and hours in a gym to accomplish this. One hour, three times is all you need for the defacto mass-building routine, Bill Starr's 5x5 - squat, bench, power clean and deadlift. Thats it. Lift heavy, eat lots, get big.
- yes this is a manufactured body, he put in the hard work to accomplish his goals. This isn't something you can just buy at the mall. Lean "toned" looking people also manufacture that look with hard work. Those who don't work hard remain skinny-fat their whole lives. Don't believe the lies of Oxygen Magazine people... changing your body composition takes hard work and consistency
- all you commenters that prefer a skinny body... thats cool, but is it too difficult to acknowledge hard work, even if you don't personally enjoy the aesthetics? I don't like marathon running by my hat is off to anyone who can run that far.
- To John Stone - kudos on the hard work.
Posted by Blake | April 3, 2007 9:57 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 21:57
Very nice. Any chance of posting up your training regiment? Reminds me of the Sparta training results for 300...
Posted by ChuFuu | April 3, 2007 10:30 PM
Posted on April 3, 2007 22:30
WOW man..... I cannot believe you all falling for this. It is SO obviously a Photoshop gag it's unbelieveable.....
Are you people for real???
Posted by Szymon | April 4, 2007 6:59 AM
Posted on April 4, 2007 06:59
fucking b.s. pictures
Posted by Anonymous | April 4, 2007 7:00 AM
Posted on April 4, 2007 07:00
I find it really strange all the commenters saying he looked the best in the pics where he looks emaciated. Is everyone anorexic these days, even dudes?
Posted by John Jackson | April 4, 2007 8:02 AM
Posted on April 4, 2007 08:02
You needn't approve this for the website, it's just a comment for you the site owner. It looks like you hit the roids some time late 2005 - i might be wrong, but you start to get that bloated look around then and maybe you'd plateaud for a bit before then. you looked better before then in my opinion. congratulations on what you've done with yourself.
Posted by Anonymous | April 4, 2007 1:47 PM
Posted on April 4, 2007 13:47
In 4 years John's gone from 215 lbs and 30% fat to 208 lbs and 10.7% fat, for a gain in lean body mass of 36 lbs.
Who in their right mind would imagine that required steroids? I gained a little more than that in a similar period without steroids and without supplements. What's the big deal?
I mean I'd be suspicious if he'd gained 136 lbs of LBM, but 36? Don't be ridiculous, anybody can do it.
Posted by Anonymous | April 4, 2007 3:03 PM
Posted on April 4, 2007 15:03
you look great
Posted by nastik | April 4, 2007 8:37 PM
Posted on April 4, 2007 20:37
Fake and juicer. I am a bodybuilder and there is no way someone can get that big without the juice. And I am not just being a hater, that is just reality.
Posted by billbass | April 4, 2007 9:06 PM
Posted on April 4, 2007 21:06
Why would he have to have used steroids. Looks like a slow natural gain to me. Usually with steroids you get over developed traps. Good job man, keep up the hard work!
jj
Posted by jj | April 6, 2007 12:00 PM
Posted on April 6, 2007 12:00
you look great!
can tell me how do you do it?
MY EMAIL:
ymsming@gmail.com
waiting you now!!
Posted by Ming | April 6, 2007 1:26 PM
Posted on April 6, 2007 13:26
tava maneiro definido ... ficou roliço escrotão
Posted by matarazzo | April 6, 2007 5:45 PM
Posted on April 6, 2007 17:45
fucking photoshop bullshit and your all falling for it
Posted by tony march | April 6, 2007 11:09 PM
Posted on April 6, 2007 23:09
I am stunned that there are so many muppets out there that take a look and bad mouth without researching first.
I was sceptical when I saw this but read his site and you will understand what he is doing and how he has done it.
He goes through a cycle of bulking and cutting which means putting on fat and muscle so he looks bloated at times and by his own admission he put on too much fat at the end of 2006. Then he sheds the fat to reveal his muscle gains.
He has a straight forward workout routine and diet with which he has achieve these results over 4 years. If he was using steroids then why not go for something much bigger much faster I have seen it done.
As for the photoshop accusations I recommend eye tests if you look closely you will see differences in shadows and hair as well as the eyes which are more or less closed in each photo. Again if people bother to read his site you will understand how he takes his photos and one of his goals is to make them look the same so he can see his results clearly.
Please read his site before making stupid comments.
Zac
Posted by Zac | April 7, 2007 3:29 PM
Posted on April 7, 2007 15:29
Congratulations John
Posted by N | April 7, 2007 4:37 PM
Posted on April 7, 2007 16:37
That is truly inspiring! I'm getting my ass to the gym tonight!
Posted by EH | April 7, 2007 11:58 PM
Posted on April 7, 2007 23:58
Looks like the drug use came in the first 6 mo. and maybe again recently. The amount of muscle density and BF% leads me to believe there was assistance early on. His lack of traps shows little use, if any, through most of the photos except towards the end. He has done an amazing job but has used gear!
Posted by KLU | April 8, 2007 5:04 PM
Posted on April 8, 2007 17:04
This is not photoshopped, look for example at the hand positions. Nice progress!
It's funny how he started shaving his chest after 4 months and his legts in 3/05, and how arrogant he looks near the end XD.
Posted by Daan Smit | April 8, 2007 6:39 PM
Posted on April 8, 2007 18:39
Ok here are my reasons why i think he used steroids. BTW, I've used steroids on/off for 5 years now, so I know what im talking bout. I also think he didnt take large amounts of steroids like pro bodybuilders use. They usuaylly stack 3 drugs for 5 months which runs them into several thousand dollars. Seems to me like this guy just did a cycle of one type of steroid. And now, on to the analysis:
1.) Notice the transformation from 5/6/2003 to 6/6/2003 - he gets insanely shredded. You cannot get this shredded just withing a week or let alone six months. He keeps his shredded look for 4 months and then starts losing his vascularity. The end of his cycle. My guess, he took a cutting steroids, probably winstrol since it doesnt aromatize which means he doesnt get the side effect like man boobs, acne, hair loss.
2.) From 10/6/2003 on until 4/6/2004, i believe he is working out naturally. He has gone through his winstrol cycle and starts losing his vascularity. No more do we see his six pack like in the 7/6/2003, he starts losing definition. He chest is no longer defined as it is in the 7/6/2003. We see no growth for 6 months. In fact we see him regress to a smaller size.
3.) He suffers from Hernia. hernia is caused when one exerts to much pressue when liftin and rip their abdominal walls. Hernia is a very comman injury for bodybuilders who juice. Now he does not state what type of hernia he had, either abdominal or inguinal(scrotum ripped). Since I cannot see an abdominal scar, Im guessing inguinal. Hernia is not directly linked to steroid use, but it is a common ailment among steroids users - mostly becuase steroids cause tendons and ligaments to weaken in direct contrast to the gain in muscle mass and strength. Ligaments and tendons do not strengthen and as you get stronger and liftin heavy weights adds undue pressue on the tendon and ligaments, sometimes causing them to tear or rip off the bone... I tore my left pectoral in this manner.
3.) After his hernia surgery we see no real progress for 6 months compared to his amazing shreded pics from before which he acheived in 6 months after he began lifting. Why didnt he acomplish the same results after coming back from surgery? hmmmm.......
4.) On 12/6/2004 we see water retention, maybe its creatine - but I also notice the begining of male breast development in his left chest. To the user viewing his pics, its the right chest. On 1/6/2005 we see the breast tissue expand significantly. His right chest seems not to be afflicted. Not uncommon when gyno sets in due to steroid use.
5.) from 12/6/2004 to 3/6/2005 we see his second steroids cycle. His muscle are fuller and rounder leading me to believe he took a bulking steroids like sustenon250.
6.) from 4/6/2005 to 9/1/2005 we see his results from natural training. he stopped his cycle sometime on 03-2005 - we see loss of definition, muscle become flat. He isnt holding water anymore.
7.) On 10-2005 he starts his 3rd cycle, it looks to me like he stacked here. Notice the increase in muscle mass again. Again we see his muscle are fuller and smooth - water retention. The cycle ends on 3/1/2006 - Notice his extended belly??
8.)We see loss of muscle mass from 4/1/2006 to 8/1/2006 - again he is working out naturally.
9.) On 9/1/2006 we see a jump in muscle mass from the previous month. He prob started his cycle the month before - this is his 4th cycle. Notice the breast development in the left chest ( if user is viewing, your right)
10) from 9/1/2006 until the end of the pics we see him on his cycle.
Conclusion: this guy is juiceer- maybe not as much as pro bodybuilders, but more than likely a light steroids user , prob because he cant afford the stack the pros use - steroids are freakin expensive. A 4-5 month cycle usually runs 500 bucks. And the was I describe his progress he seems to cycle on/off every 4-5 months every year. Four cycles for four years.
Posted by gomez81 | April 8, 2007 11:26 PM
Posted on April 8, 2007 23:26
BillBsss... there is no way you are a bodybuilder and make comments like you did. John's gain is perfectly normal SLOW muscle gain over 4 YEARS of hard work. He cycles, bulking in the fall by gaining weight and lifting out so that as much of the weight gain as possible is going to build muscle and as little as possible goes on as fat. This takes special monitoring of one's food both as to composition of meals and timing of them. There is no way to bulk without putting some fat on, it is the price to pay for gaining muscle. So he loses definition and becomes bloated looking because of the unavoidable fat gain during the bulk. But my suspicions are that you probably know that bloated look from high body fat quite well, just without any muscle to accompany it... because despite your claims of being a body builder... you obviously have no idea how to build a body. lol
Then in the spring he goes on a "cut." That means one adjusts one's food in a manner to a. lose weight and b. to do it in a way that minimizes muscle loss and maximizes the weight loss coming from fat. A different nutrition regimen but always heavy weight lifting and in this case cardio as well as it enhances fat-burning (which is why runners are so lean.) Losing weight causes some muscle loss, it is unavoidable, but properly managed through diet and weights and cardio, it is mostly fat that comes off. So during the cut he starts losing the body-fat, loses a little muscle, he starts to look more "cut" so you see more muscle definition in his body.
He maintains during the summer. This still requires management of his nutrition and weight-lifting and what cardio is necessary SO he stays "cut" and about the same muscle size throughout the summer.... then he starts all over again in the fall: bulk to mid winter, cut during spring til summer, maintain during summer.
Over 4 years, he has averaged 9 pounds of muscle gain per year. Just astounding isn't it. Why I am sure you, Billbass can gain more than 9 pounds in a year, but I bet it ain't all muscle, probably none of it is muscle... it is probably all fat... too bad for you...
Each year he net gains a little more muscle mass, so that the next cut, there is more muscle to show.
And he has kept this discipline up for 4 years. You can read his logs.
The big question is: Can you match his discipline...? I think not, if you are really trying to be a bodybuilder and can't even match his gains... you probably miss more workouts than you do them, you probably just do bench presses and cable pulls and other upper body work if you do anything at all.. and never do squats where you drop your thighs below the parallel with the floor with 100 or more pounds on your shoulders. And don't do deadlifts with a couple 100 pounds on your Bar bell (I personally squat 85 lbs and deadlift 95 lbs and I am a 59 year old woman and I only have a fraction of the dedication of John -- you want a contest? you bodybuilder you?)
But then Billbass, you know how to do all this, and have done this yourself... because you are a bodybuilder too HAH!!! (jerk!)
Posted by Justitia | April 9, 2007 5:19 AM
Posted on April 9, 2007 05:19
Look me It is true. http://bodybuilding-fitness.blogspot.com/
Posted by Bodybuilding programs and fitness | April 9, 2007 7:57 PM
Posted on April 9, 2007 19:57
nice... shows me how easy it is to get my tummy smaller... but you shouldnt have taken the steroids later... its very unhealthy...
Posted by deimam | April 10, 2007 2:45 PM
Posted on April 10, 2007 14:45
Well done !
Posted by Mr. M | April 10, 2007 3:50 PM
Posted on April 10, 2007 15:50
ok let's get serious to all the people accusing this guy of steroids. We're talking about 4 YEARS of work, not an overnight transformation. He obviously made up his mind that he wasn't happy w/ the way his body looked, so he paid his dues at the gym. Why would anyone go through all this trouble to make a fake website and take all these pics??? It's clear that many of you don't know a damn thing about bodybuilding, nor the things you can accomplish when you're willing to bust your balls to achieve your goals. Congrats on your gains man, don't let these clowns discourage you.
Posted by Anonymous | April 13, 2007 5:55 AM
Posted on April 13, 2007 05:55
Great work buddy, been doing my own training regime the last 5 months and truly enjoy it.
Posted by Markus Johansson | April 15, 2007 5:49 PM
Posted on April 15, 2007 17:49
Maybe on drugs? Howcome can he lose that weight just on the first 4 f*cking days?
Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2007 10:26 AM
Posted on April 16, 2007 10:26
Жопа
Posted by Anti | April 17, 2007 12:49 PM
Posted on April 17, 2007 12:49
"Maybe on drugs? Howcome can he lose that weight just on the first 4 f*cking days?"
Dumbass - each of those photos is a MONTH apart, not a day.
Posted by Anonymous | April 18, 2007 9:46 AM
Posted on April 18, 2007 09:46
This is amazing! I so want to do this as well! How do you do this with work and other commitments? I would have to stop working, no TV, and a strict diet. I applaud yoU!
Posted by Free Nature Photography Wallpaper | April 20, 2007 7:07 AM
Posted on April 20, 2007 07:07
Honestly the complaints here come from a weird mix of people.
1. Lets start by explaining steroids to the people who like that word. Steroids would get him to year 4 by the end of year 1, as long as he ate well enough. I've known 5-6 people who did it during high school, and with light steroids as opposed to injectables. So people crying steroids, either do not work out, or do and are probably very frustrated because they do not know how to build/eat properly or they have REALLY worthless genetics.
2. People saying photoshop. Go to the site, he has lots more pictures anyhow when I went to see if this allegation was true. I can't say that it wasn't photoshopped, because if someone is good, then it can be way too hard to tell. BUT I will say that if it is photoshopped you cannot discern either, I've done lots of graphic design, you could be talking about a smudge on the lense for all you know. ALSO, some of you are saying that he could now have held the same stance every photo.... guess not, but the 48 random models he used to paste his face on sure did a great job. Strong arguement.
Someone also claimed he could not cut down that fast. Once again, low carbs at night, running everyday with a negative calorie intake, I have dropped 25 pounds in 30 days before, while remaining hydrated. I am younger than this guy but lets be honest, given good genes and how much effort he would put into his HIIT training it is easily possible.
SOOOO guys I would suggest you use this as motivation as opposed to looking for a way to discredit it. 4 years is a long time, and he clearly has taken the workouts seriously enough to both make the photo journal and to work hard at transforming himself.
Posted by A Hill | April 23, 2007 8:52 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 20:52
Very impressive, but you shouldn't have started taking steroids in november 2004. That was when you were best looking and most natural. That was what you could get naturally, the rest is just pills. :P
Posted by Norway | April 25, 2007 7:45 PM
Posted on April 25, 2007 19:45
@ Norway
Do you really think that nov. 2004 is all he could get naturally?
I don't think so, because most of natural bodybuilders need a lot of years to reach their genetic limit.
I don't say that I
'm not thinking that he took roids.
But what I'm trying to say is that Nov. 2004 is not even in the near of his genetic limit.
But what is with 4/1/2007 and 5/1/2007? I want to see how much muscles and defination you gained!
Btw: Excuse my bad english, I'm german ^^
Posted by Mike | May 1, 2007 5:13 PM
Posted on May 1, 2007 17:13
You guys could always read his web page.
In 04 He didn't start on steriods, he upgraded his home gym.
He had been using a bench, dumbells and barbells, and then he got a 8k home gym system.
It is a big pet peeve of his actually. He hates steroids, doesn't think anyone should touch them, and has never used them.
Posted by Blake | May 7, 2007 6:35 PM
Posted on May 7, 2007 18:35
Hello
Bye
Posted by Test | May 11, 2007 1:30 PM
Posted on May 11, 2007 13:30
Дружище, а у тебя хуй вообще после этого стоит?
Posted by Ranzaar | May 18, 2007 8:05 PM
Posted on May 18, 2007 20:05
Please stop NOW! You don't look handsome anymore, I agree with other: you should have stop in 2003 or 2004 and just maintain yourself. :)
Posted by Maggs | May 27, 2007 11:41 AM
Posted on May 27, 2007 11:41
Please stop NOW! You don't look handsome anymore, I agree with other: you should have stop in 2003 or 2004 and just maintain yourself. Anyway, congratulations for your effort! great job! :)
Posted by Maggs | May 27, 2007 11:41 AM
Posted on May 27, 2007 11:41
HELLO WELL I WAS SEEING YOUR PHOTOS AND I THINK THAR THEY ARE FALSE ...YOUR ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME STUPID FACE AND ITS SO OBVIOUS THAT YOU USE PHOTOSHOP!I PREFFER YOU CHUBBY PHOTO RATHER THAN THE FALSE steroids ONES!!!!KISSES !!
Posted by V | May 29, 2007 2:40 AM
Posted on May 29, 2007 02:40
I think its impossible without steroids....
Posted by Roma | June 3, 2007 7:30 AM
Posted on June 3, 2007 07:30
Great job. It just goes to show what dedication to hard work and a clean diet can do for building muscle and burning fat.
Posted by Building Muscle | June 4, 2007 6:54 AM
Posted on June 4, 2007 06:54
very impressive... damn...anyone know his routine? i wanna know... email me if u guys know.. i went thru the page but didnt see it listed anywhere or did i missed it? this guy is the shiet.. talk about dedication... NO.. i dont think this is photoshop..... I do a lot of photoshopping and even the best photoshop'ed pix can easily be identify...
Posted by Toua Lee | June 6, 2007 8:28 AM
Posted on June 6, 2007 08:28
YEAH - GREAT - in the begginning you advanced excellent but later, as i can see from the pictures your body didn't grow much.
Posted by Hitler | June 12, 2007 5:10 AM
Posted on June 12, 2007 05:10
Very good!! but what did you eat all the time...please post a e-mail to me!! :D
Posted by Renè M.S | June 17, 2007 5:37 PM
Posted on June 17, 2007 17:37
Very nice point of view! Respect!
Posted by rutommyck | July 29, 2007 11:43 PM
Posted on July 29, 2007 23:43
Very nice point of view! Respect!
Posted by euo777moor | August 5, 2007 10:11 PM
Posted on August 5, 2007 22:11
They're real. I know nothing about body building but I've done compositing in photoshop professionally. Look at the shape of his stomach over time, identical. Look at his nipples, where they're at on his chest. Definetely the same person in every shot.
Many of the images look very similar, like heads were reused on several different bodies etc. but look closer. They're different.
Posted by bill mcneel | August 27, 2007 12:09 PM
Posted on August 27, 2007 12:09
are these picture for real?
Posted by cms | September 12, 2007 2:30 PM
Posted on September 12, 2007 14:30
as i see it,some of these folks are jealous for the simple reason they lack motivation,discipline and pride.these are most likely the kind of people while reading this there pig face is gulping down mcdonalds and chips while guys like him and me are working out hard in the gym take pride and self discipline and the end result is looking so good that we usually take your lady out for a good nite of fun while she tells you that shes out with her friends.so go on with your ill remarks and go fill your beer guzzlin gut so much that your now a member of the dicky do club(belly sticks out further than your dicky do)and we'll just keep lookin good and keepin the ladies comin our way!!
Posted by keith | October 26, 2007 5:29 PM
Posted on October 26, 2007 17:29
isso foi bomba pura,
durateston + deca
nem fudendo o cara fikou assim,
Posted by gabriel from brazil | October 29, 2007 8:02 PM
Posted on October 29, 2007 20:02
Bon Dia!
Posted by nabondiayh | November 30, 2007 1:25 PM
Posted on November 30, 2007 13:25